so here's my -- it was against sarah palin that he said this thing. the governor is a very good friend of mine. i called her for comment. she said rather than taking this on, you know what? she's handled this thing with grace, class and as a good christian. i said, governor, will you do me a favor? send me your book. i got her book. hello? hello? porter? >> oh, my gosh. >> take camera 6. >> oh, hell, i'll buy it. here. >> anyway, her book is "good tidings, great joy." >> dana, who should replace him? alec baldwin? rob ford? >> i don't really ever get a chance to watch that channel. >> yeah. >> yeah. i couldn't tell you. >> how about rob ford? >> the thing that msnbc has a problem explaining, i think they should have a problem explaining is why for off-the-cuff remarks made about a group of people, alec baldwin was fired immediately. martin bashir got to take a leave of absence, think it through and gets a nice statement from the president of msnbc about how they wish him the best. >> right. >> if i was a staff at msnbc, i would have preferred to know